@arj Hadn't realized it had built-in rust bindings...happen to know if there are any efforts underway to get it listed on crates.io (or maybe lib.rs)? I recently ended up using gpiocdev for a thing I'm hacking at; had libgpiod itself been easily available via one of those I might've evaluated it as a another possibility...

@jk I have enough trouble typing "i2c" as it is...you mean I have to reach all the way up to the numeric keys? And remember not to keep holding shift when uppercasing it?

My typing accuracy is on the whole not great, but those three characters trip me up probably 50% of the times I attempt them.

@jwz It's a bit on the "minimalist" side, but as someone with similar requirements personally I've found honk checks those boxes pretty well, FWIW.

@mattblaze @sehe@fosstodon.org I dunno, honestly even in the ML sense I still bristle at the use of "AI" to describe anything that currently exists (or believably could in the foreseeable future). It's not just that it's not general, but even in the fairly limited scopes of the problem domains it's applied to, the failure modes it exhibits do not give the impression that what's going on under the covers has any relation to the workings of "real" intelligence.

It's certainly a pretty lost cause at this point, but I think I'll probably continue to stubbornly employ air-quotes any time I (grudgingly) use the term myself.

@benjojo While I can think of maybe two times ever when I had any need for one (for some fairly generous definition of "need"), every time I see one of these images I get major Flir jealousy.

@timkuijsten Yeah, that's essentially what I've been doing.

@w8emv Oh, and I guess you'll probably also need to hit the re-sub button on all your honkers, and maybe unsub them from the old domain first before changing it as a small courtesy to other servers? (If my vague understanding of ActivityPub is right, which it may well not be.)

@w8emv Sounds like the NXDOMAIN thing would apply regardless of which approach is taken? And if that's a concern, any chance of leaving a CNAME in place to point to the new one?

As for data transfer, I don't know if there's anything in the backup/restore machinery that would handle a domain change; at a guess I might try a relatively brute-force approach like

$ sqlite3 old-honk.db .dump | sed 's/olddomain/newdomain/g' | sqlite3 new-honk.db

but I dunno offhand if there might be any hashes or the like floating around somewhere that that might screw up (I'd guess probably not, but I'm not that intimately familiar with it). I suppose that would also have the effect of rewriting history by changing any references to it in honk body text...but history is written by the winners, right?

@tedu@honk.tedunangst.com, any sage wisdom to impart?

@timkuijsten I've got his humungus hg repo as a git remote via git-remote-hg (https://github.com/mnauw/git-remote-hg, also packaged in most major distros I think), so I just git fetch and it maps hg commits to native git commits.

@eta @w8emv@pinateck.dunker-pentatonic.ts.net Assuming you're referring to the "nodeinfo" endpoints, yes, the latest upstream release (0.9.7) doesn't support them, but there are patches floating around (e.g. this) that some of us are running to enable that.

@swetland @sindastra@chaos.social I think it has basically four glaring problems -- the two you've mentioned (trailing commas being disallowed and the all-numbers-are-floats javascript dain-bramage), plus the lack of comments (since of course people are going to use it for config files and such), and the missing support for 0x...-style hex notation. The numeric-types problem is the only one that's non-trivial, but with a modicum more thought at the outset it could have been a decent data format -- but of course it's obviously far too late now, sigh...

@swetland @sindastra@chaos.social Strong agree. If it were even slightly better its pervasiveness would be a lot less irritating, but it's right in that awkward zone of being a "close enough" fit for a lot of things that people use it everywhere, while not actually being a good fit for anything but a small fraction of those cases.

@benjojo Neat, thanks! Cherry-picking things might get a bit tricky with the various bulk-renaming patches, but definitely good to have available.

@briandorsey Maybe a little "boring", but I'll add another vote for bash, and also note that it has a lot more going for it interactively than I think most people realize. For example, I'd bet 99% of bash users don't know about C-]/C-M-] -- things like that can let you zip around command lines at a shell prompt very efficiently. (man bash is long, but the section on readline and its various built-in keybindings is worth a read.)

@kwf To be fair, most BMCs use a similar "pretend to be a USB device" scheme to provide the iKVM keyboard/mouse functionality (and of course the remote-media virtual CD-ROM).

What might be a lot more horrifying is what it requires (or doesn't) to put itself into that mode -- on a Dell, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it was basically nothing beyond being root on the host? (i.e. no BMC password required?)

(Also, 308MB seems pretty bonkers, but I guess that's just the way of the world...)

@horia Ah, maybe my history just isn't long enough to be hitting it then -- maybe the 250 limit at line 1132 of database.go getting applied somewhere?

@gthmg This patch from @icy seems to be working alright for me.

@w8emv @jxs@honk.jxs.me Definitely, yes -- in addition to @jxs@honk.jxs.me's, I've also been tracking @petersanchez@honk.petersanchez.com's here and @icy's here. I think @ols and @benjojo also have some interestingly-tweaked versions, but I don't know if the sources are public anywhere at the moment.

(For the record my own is here, now including some of @icy's code for avatar-fetching.)

And another: https://fediverse.observer/stats

@horia @tedu@honk.tedunangst.com Curious what limit you're seeing; on mine I see all of mine at the latter link (133, dating back ~6 months).

@w8emv (And see the "Be part of our world" section at the bottom for how get your node included.)

@w8emv Actually that's more a functional thing I was about to follow up with (but forgot until your post reminded me) -- if any other #honk instances want to be counted in metrics like that, @jxs has a a patch for it here, plus a small fix-up here.

...answering my own question a week later here, I've stumbled across https://the-federation.info, which looks helpful.

@kwf Does this imply that you've got an Arista support contract for your home network, or that they can in fact be freed from the cloud and run independently?

@jwz @ducky@gearheads.social Five...is one of .com, .net, .org, .edu, .gov, or .mil not as primordial as I'd thought?

@w8emv @tedu@honk.tedunangst.com @tailscale @w8emv@hachyderm.io @Raspberry_Pi

@davidzipper Another fun fact: it's over the weight limit for a non-commercial license in Europe, so driving it there would require a CDL.

Also pictured: plush toy entrails, debris from a scene of gruesome violence.

@lauren Indeed...I've been thinking of it as that stage of Wile E. Coyote having run off the edge of the cliff, but not yet looked down to see that there's no more ground beneath him.

@w8emv Thus expands the #honkiverse!

@arj On a lark I requested an archive download of my (long-dormant, never really used, microscopic quantity of data) Twitter account a week or so ago; at that point it took about 24 hours to receive the email that it was ready, FWIW. Now, however...yeah, who knows.

Also note (as you may already be aware) that the archive still refers to external resources on twitter's servers, so if you actually want all the data locally you have to run a script over it to really download everything. (Which itself seems like a pretty gross failure on their part, but that's another can of worms...)

@damienmiller @conradhackett@sciences.social But be careful with cheese, r=0.947 with death by bedsheet-entanglement!

Source

@graham @kwf@social.afront.org You jest, but prior to getting on here (honk being my software of choice) I actually used TXT records on a bind9 instance I set up as a microblog for a while. Linearly increasing post ID numbers, and a "latest" CNAME to point to the highest-numbered one.

(It had a readership of...one, I think.)

@kwf @axwax@fosstodon.org Some of us really get into the spirit of the holiday.

@kwf But with just a little bit more work we could eliminate all other software entirely and achieve the transcendent ideal! The entire industry has been laboring for decades toward this moment, culminating in a final cut of the umbilical cord to release us into a pure world of package managers, untainted by any foreign contaminants.

@cks

(It would be easier if Mastodon was an all-in-one monolith that I could just run and point to some local disk storage.)

FWIW, honk is a (somewhat minimalist) single-binary ActivityPub implementation that's pretty much that.

@GeoffWozniak Especially in light of certain recent headlines...

Government agency 80 years ago: please lick things!

Government agency today: please stop licking things.

@th "You know those really irritating behaviors in Windows that people complain about so much it's a running joke with the general public? Let's add some of those."

@ols I can't say I've actually used it for any projects, but I seem to recall https://thenounproject.com having a good collection of CC0 options -- now it looks like it wants you to log in to an account to do anything with it though, so I dunno.

re: meta

@Obdurodon If a slightly more minimalist approach might appeal, honk is very lightweight and easy to set up/administer.

re: crypto

@Obdurodon I dunno, while asbestos is certainly toxic, it does at least have some real-world utility...

@vijay No need for the future tense -- a quick search turned up this: https://codeberg.org/martianh/mastodon.el

@tedu I'm not certain if it's related to the above, but when trying to add @mxshift I get a "failed to investigate honker" log message (and "had some trouble with that: http get status: 401" in my browser).

@GeoffWozniak I think the best part is during the Q&A, where he reveals...that he has backup slides.

@w8emv Hey, compared to IPMI or Redfish it could make for a compelling alternative network protocol...

@w8emv Actually, I suppose the problem there would be storage for its sqlite DBs; a 32MB NOR flash chip probably isn't a great fit for that -- tmpfs maybe, to embrace the whole fleeting, ephemeral thing...

@w8emv Yeah...just for giggles, now I'm wondering about running it on a BMC! (I bet it'd do just fine, honestly.)

@w8emv Indeed -- my instance is sitting at a whopping 67MB of RSS, and zero "background noise" CPU utilization.

@grahamc Amen -- after six months or so of having it, I'm quite pleased with mine.

@w8emv waves

@vijay Whoa, you've been at it long enough to be on sabbatical already? Though I guess it has been a minute now that I think about it -- the time does fly...hope you're enjoying your time there!

(Also hope to keep seeing you here on the fediverse -- it's been getting a lot more lively lately, lots of neat new people and stuff popping up every day.)

@vijay Doing pretty well on the whole, now munging BMC firmware (OpenBMC) at Equinix Metal. How's the professorial life treating you?

@vijay Ahoy there!

@tedu I have to say when I saw "five-finger breathing" the first thing that came to mind was more like...

re: uspol: I voted 🇺🇸

@swetland Exact same story for me here in WA, FWIW.

@kwf Aww, too bad. Granted, I can't say I ever actually contributed anything to the project myself, but sad to see it looking moribund. Alas...

@tedu @molly0xfff@mastodon.social's site is always full of good answers to that question.

@arj @recursive@tech.lgbt Sign me up for the strace fan club; it's my go-to tool for just about everything.

Something not working right? strace.

Something running slowly? strace.

Hey, how does that program work anyway? strace.

If you've got questions, strace has answers.

@petersanchez Ah -- browsers having built-in multi-file upload support hadn't even occurred to me actually. I was thinking there'd probably be some UI changes needed to accommodate multiple files each potentially having their own separate "description" text, but I'm not sure offhand what that would/should look like.

@monsieuricon Even in just the narrow little corner of it that I see, it has been interesting seeing the amount of activity on here jump way up in the last few days...

@GeoffWozniak @thegibson@hackers.town Possibly apocryphal, but I think at some point someone was selling "audiophile" gear to hold your speaker cables straight...because, y'know, the electrons flow more freely in a straight line of course.

@petersanchez Oh cool, thanks! And yes, definitely some overlap in your todo list and things I've thought about looking into (especially multiple attachments), though with zero experience in client-side stuff (HTML, JS, etc.) any attempt I actually tried to make would likely be extremely ham-fisted, if even functional at all...

@petersanchez Also, while I haven't actually looked through many of them myself, a big list of potentially interesting individual accounts crossed my path recently: https://fosstodon.org/@axwax/109247401199263838

@petersanchez chaos.social has some interesting folks on it.

@petersanchez Is your fork hosted anywhere public? I've got a handful of minor patches I've been running on my instance (most of which probably aren't upstream-worthy or of interest to others, but a few might be): https://github.com/zevweiss/honk/tree/tweaks

#honk

@tedu Reality and The Onion have been converging for a while; Succession seems to be joining in as well.

@GeoffWozniak Perhaps you're already aware of this, but it's not strictly that ZFS doesn't have inodes, but that it allocates them dynamically, unlike more "traditionally structured" unix flesystems like ext4, which preallocate them at mkfs time. ZFS is far from alone in that though; xfs, btrfs, f2fs, bcachefs, etc. have dynamically-allocated inodes as well.

@swetland FWIW, I've got a few minor patches here that I run on my instance, some small subset of which I might eventually get around to upstreaming...

@barrelshifter Interesting -- possibly the answer to this is somewhere on that page and it just wasn't sufficiently obvious for me, but for those of us not so well-versed in clang/LLVM internals, why is the instruction-selection algorithm OS-specific? Different arches using different algorithms doesn't seem surprising, but I'm curious why aarch64-darwin would use a different one from (say) aarch64-linux.

@swetland I dunno if it's exactly a "blog thing" (and it does at least support multiple users), but @tedu@honk.tedunangst.com's honk is a single-binary ActivityPub thing in Go. It's a bit on the quirky/minimalist side, but I've been running a single-user instance of it for myself pretty happily the last few months.