@tedu Be the change you wish to see in the world.

Clearly github's days are numbered!

@stephen0x2dfox Hah...the ed(1) school of error reportage. Which implementation is that from?

@w8emv Haven't actually replied to the poll itself because that AP functionality doesn't quite fit within honk's minimalist aesthetic, but: I tend to hold on to the ones for larger/more-expensive items (especially the servers from work, since I'll need to ship those back at some point). As mentioned elsewhere in the thread they're definitely useful when moving, though having made the rent->mortgage jump last year the importance of that is somewhat diminished, so I should probably get rid of some.

(Typing this up has also inspired me to finally toss the two 2.5" SSD boxes that have been sitting on my desk for I-don't-know-how-many weeks now...though those were more accidental than any sort of intent.)

Packrat? Who, me? Never.

@mxshift Hmm, what compiler/version was this with? FWIW, even with no (explicit) -W flags at all I get a warning with avr-gcc 9.3.0:

$ avr-gcc -x c -c -o /dev/null - <<<'const unsigned long EXPOSURE_LENGTH_MS = 1000 * 45;'
<stdin>:1:47: warning: integer overflow in expression of type 'int' results in '-20536' [-Woverflow]

@tedu Now that all the memory-safety bugs are solved, we just needed some of that same excitement in the uid/gid space.

@arj @foone @felurx Got my hopes up for a moment here that this would solve a long-standing irritation for me, but then:

$ ls -l /dev/serial/by-path/* | wc -l
10
$ ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/* | wc -l
1

Oh right -- my adapters don't have serial numbers. Sigh...

@tedu Can the hoi polloi be entrusted with such a premium feature or will this be restricted to Honk Enterprise Edition?

@sjolsen Certainly, it of course doesn't free you from still ultimately using I2C, just a convenient abstraction on top of it...though FWIW 1.5Mbps was the TCP throughput I got out of it with iperf, so including a fair amount of overhead; the actual bus frequency was a good bit higher, and at least on the systems I was running it on it seemed to work well enough (though perhaps I was lucky).

@sjolsen @mxshift While perhaps unconventional, it is possible to run ethernet over a point-to-point I2C link as a physical layer (never tried upstreaming it, but I wrote a Linux driver for this a few years ago -- not terribly fast of course, but there are lots of things for which 1.5Mbps is plenty).

@tedu intel.com unconditionally 403s wget (which I tend to use for downloading documentation PDFs)...my bash history thus has quite a few entries along the lines of wget --user-agent='totally not doubleyou-get lol' https://www.intel.com/...

@ChuckMcManis @dougmerritt Assuming that's regarding just the kernel (and setting aside the problem of auditing 30+ million lines of existing code, which I'd think such a customer might also want?), a dozen people doesn't seem like very many to try to thoroughly vet all the changes that get applied to Linux all the time. Even assuming sufficient subsystem expertise among the entire group to cover everything, the sheer volume per individual would be enormous -- thousands of lines per day, all day every day.

@cliffle While I can't claim anything approaching your degree of thoroughness, this patch resulted from me going through a very similar process (involving xmobar) with a new laptop a few years ago. I'd thought it was my Framework, but the timestamp suggests it was probably the Librem that predated it (and that I'd probably still be using if I hadn't fried the display with an ill-advised i2cdump command...),

@tedu

Bell curve, but all the numbers just below a threshold are fudged upwards

...and also an odd little spike at 100, and, if my eyes don't deceive, an even tinier irregularity at zero. Do we get to know what it's from?

@Obdurodon Looks like it might be kind of unmaintained at this point unfortunately, but FWIW I've found Forecastie to work decently well (GPL, available via F-droid).

@tedu The proximity (at least in a wide-ish browser window) of the bonk and zonk buttons always gives me a thrill, especially on the rare occasions when I've reached for the latter. Life on a knife-edge!

@cliffle @iliana Ah, the old "4-dimensional USB-cable space" trick but done electronically rather than mechanically...I eagerly await this becoming ubiquitous!

@mcc https://honk.bewilderbeest.net/u/zev/h/gJNMS3g4XCszGyKTBf

@tedu FWIW I actually took an ever so slightly deeper look at this briefly, and at least going by the sophisticated investigative techniques laid out here it appears to be built with Backbone, no React detected...(shrug)

Though honestly either way (whether leftover webapp framework detritus or Firmware Innovation Bright Idea)...it's a strange world we've built ourselves.

@cliffle Oh, that's an excellent one I'll add to my file.

(https://honk.bewilderbeest.net/u/zev/h/m7p339YsrH8WK4m158)

@Obdurodon @digichelle Can I ask what you ended up with? Given the ubiquity of touchscreen-based interfaces, known counterexamples could be useful to those of us with similar preferences...

@meena @tedu What kind of barbarian uses bc in this day and age? I mean dc is right there!

@benjojo @wrmsr At $job[-1] sometimes I'd use the exhaust behind our server rack to thaw out the frozen burritos I brought for lunch...worked pretty well actually.

@tedu Though I suppose the suprising permissions behavior would preserve the exciting uncertainty about who might end up actually receiving DMs that Mastodon has (or is it inherent to ActivityPub?)...

@tedu What's that? Oh sorry, no, your regular chmod permissions are meaningless here, you'll need to use this entirely different set of commands and permissions model instead.

Also, your kerberos ticket is expired, please log back in and try again.

@Obdurodon @recursive Hah -- shortly after I started at my last job I privilege-escalated myself to root and promptly made myself de facto admin, which I remained from that point on. What was the vector? [drumroll] A non-root-squashed NFS export! (This was in 2017, FWIW.)

@oclsc @cks @benjojo Yes, there is indeed plenty in the world of BMC firmware to be irritated or horrified by...the most striking example to me is something I've occasionally seen flicker by and disappear as the BMC web UI loads on certain servers, not fully implemented and actually exposed, but clear evidence that somewhere in the firmware vendor chain someone thought it was a swell idea: I shit you not, an app store.

@cks @benjojo There's unfortunately often a delay between when the BMC powers on the host processor and when the interfaces by which the BMC can read the temperature of that processor (e.g. PECI on Intel platforms or SB-TSI for AMD) actually come fully online. The fans are usually on the same 12V power rail as the host and hence turn on when it does, and lacking a valid temperature reading from the host CPU, going into failsafe mode is the...well, safe option. Logic like "if we just turned it on right now on it's probably not very hot" runs into problems if it had recently been on and is still holding a lot of residual heat...you could potentially get into tracking more history to disambiguate that in turn, but then you're suddenly a lot more stateful than you were which gets messy and fragile (especially considering that the BMC and the host can both reboot independently of each other), and it's ultimately just a lot simpler and less error-prone to make it (relatively) stateless and err on the side of not cooking things. And of course since most servers end up situated in places where there usually aren't people around to hear them, acoustic noise optimization is typically pretty low on the list of priorities.

(Yes, I work on BMC firmware.)

@cks @leah Happen to know offhand how it compares to execsnoop from bcc-tools?

Trying to get the dog in the shot too is trickier still, however.

@knapjack I can't recall receiving any at all, screenshot or otherwise.

@tedu @freakazoid That's why I keep them in my password manager.

@petersanchez @tedu Hmm -- I received it, and attempted to reply saying so, but after hitting the "chonk" button on the chatter page I just got an error saying "who is that?"...looks like the chatter page is sending an empty target parameter when POSTing to /sendchonk?

@petersanchez @tedu I always sorta figured that's what "chatter" was, but I've never actually tried it (or looked into the code behind it).

@lorddimwit Has he seen Dinosaur Comics by any chance? (The same six frames every time, though maybe a little bit adult now and then.)

@tedu Yes, but only because bathroom fractions can all (both?) be represented exactly.

@tedu "Why do people keep using C code???" ask people inexplicably unwilling to rewrite eleventy billion lines of it themselves.

@tedu Approaching the end of my second decade of eligibility and I've yet to receive a single summons. Sometimes I wonder if something's wrong.

@ianthetechie @cliffle @iliana Having used both for code review at least semi-regularly over the last few years, I'm a fan of...neither, really. Github lacks some major, fairly basic capabilities like commenting on commit messages; Gerrit leaves a lot to be desired UI-wise IMO and frequently exhibits annoying little bugs. I recall liking Review Board reasonably well last time I used it, but it's been a while so who knows...